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We believe that these cars should be driven, not parked in a museum. 

We build engines with this in mind.

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  • We fit our bearings using a compound developed by the U.S. Navy - This process can take 1-2 hours per bearing to get near 100% coverage.  Originally Ford burned them in using a larger motor.  They got the close by scraping, then spun the engine over until they started to smoke.  Ford spec's at the time required 50-60% coverage.  That is simply not good enough for us.  Properly fit bearings last longer between adjustments, and you won't need to tow the car to get it started the first time.

 

  • All moving parts are carefully weighed and then balanced by computer to 0.05 grams at 1" radius.  For comparison, one staple weighs 0.05 grams and a single dime weighs 20 times this amount. 

  • Only the best parts are used.  Questionable or damaged parts are never used. 

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  • Our engines will start on 1/4 turn pull on the crank most of the time.   
  • We take our time to do it right the first time.  We want you to enjoy your car instead of worrying about it all the time.
  • We give you peace of mind, because it will start and it will get you home again at the end of the day

 

Why do engines cost so much?

To answer this, understand that these parts are NOT CHEAP!  We use only the best parts available, and to the best of my knowledge, they are all MADE IN THE U.S.A.

Look at our competitions websites or call them.  Ask questions about what will be done to your engine, and what parts and processes are used.  You will undoubtedly find cheaper prices out there, but they might not include everything you want or need done to ensure that you have a reliable long lasting engine, and more importantly - peace of mind.

They may offer "short blocks" and "long blocks".  They may not include new manifolds, new carb, new camshaft (not reground), balancing, lapped in bearings, precision alignment, new starter, new generator, etc.  If you consider these differences and add in the parts and services they don't offer to the price, we charge roughly the same amount for what we do here - and you don't have to bolt on all the extras on when you get it home.  We also run them here before sending them home.  This insures that you get the best possible engine with no unpleasant surprises. 

We rebuild your Model T's entire power plant, not just the engine half of the assembly.  Please understand that when we give you a ballpark figure, it usually includes the engine, transmission, and all the add on pieces you will need to make it run - ignition, carb, manifolds, etc.  It is true, you get what you pay for - do you really want "cheap""?

Contrary to popular belief, we don't make a ton of money on these engines.  Most of the money goes to the parts suppliers, if you want to complain - call them!

The current labor rate is $50 per hour.

We do feel that what we charge is very fair, as it's half what our nearest competitor charges.

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If you live far away, can we still help you? 

   

YES!!!!  We're only a truck away!

 

We lump Model T engine requests into three groups:
  • Standard

    Is your car is hard to start, low compression, still runs, but just plain worn out?  Bring that engine in (out of the car) and we will rebuild it in stock configuration.

  • Touring

This is the most commonly asked for combination of parts for people that like to drive their T's on tours or around town.  It's a proven and reliable package that gives you a substantial boost in power for hill climbing or keeping up with traffic on back roads.

  • Wild

If your completely crazy (like me) and want a racing engine, please call and ask.  We'll do our best to help you realize your dream. We do Model A crankshaft conversions and overhead valves too.  We can even build you a fuel injected Model T engine if you want one.

 

What's involved?

To properly rebuild a Model T power plant, it takes roughly 40-50 hours of tedious hard work performed by someone that knows what they are doing.  This includes rebuilding the motor, transmission, manifolds, carburetor, head, etc.  We sometimes spend 1-2 hours per bearing (there are a total of ten Babbitt bearings in a T) to get a perfect fit. 

How long will it take? 

"Turn around" time for an engine assembly start to finish is running about three months right now. 

If you need to bring the whole car in for work, please call and schedule an appointment.

There is no waiting list for engines out of the car. 

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This was taken from the Model T Club Forums - I think it's wonderful that these people are happy with the work we did for them!

Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2009: Engine rebuilder recomendations?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:48 pm:

I see in Hemmings Motor News, and from searching the web, that there are quite a few engine rebuilders in eastern New York, Conn., and Mass. Seeing that I'm just outside N.Y. City, I could easily get to any one of them.

I would like to hear from folks who have used the services of the rebuilders in this area. Who rebuilt your engine/trans.? Were you pleased with the work? What did you like about them? Not pleased? What did'nt you like? Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Alan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:01 am:

Give Tim Foye a call.
http://www.gen3antiqueauto.com/
He's right up there in your neck of the woods and I'm quite pleased with his work. He ain't cheap but you get what you pay for.

(child optional at substantial extra cost)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:53 pm:

Thanks Dennis. Do you mind me asking how much your engine was? Is it stock, or is it "modified"?

Vince- Mo. as in Missouri? Mo. is a little too far away from where I am, but thanks for the info.

Are there any other rebuilders in my area that you guys would give high marks to?

Any rebuilders out there not listed in Hemmings? A "well kept secret" type thing?

Thanks guys.
Alan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 01:53 pm:

Alan, It wouldn't be fair to talk price when it comes to my engine. I had Tim start from scratch.
FIND a good block, Find a good crank and just modify the hell out of everything else. Look up what he calls a "Touring Engine" on his site.
"Blue printed", balanced, Stype cam, Z head, aluminum intake manifold, modified NH carb, stripped flywheel (no mag), outside oiler, VW style dist, Kevlar bands, 12V starter and more. Rebuilding YOUR engine would be considerably cheaper. I bought a brand new Brassworks radiator from him too.
When I got the engine from Tim, I took out my #'s matching original engine (which was running but spitting out babbit every oil change) and stored it. Tim will rebuild that one completely stock some time down the line.
I went this route because my car is an (almost) daily driver. I go everywhere in it, shopping, out for dinner, any excuse I can find to drive it and I wanted solid reliability, which is exactly what I got. It's pretty quick too (for a Model T Tudor) 50+ MPH, though I'm quite happy to stay around around 35.
When (if) I sell this car (which is otherwise very original), I'll put the #'s matching engine back in it and save the modified engine for a T Truck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 03:00 pm:

Another vote for Tim Foye. Can honestly say he takes his reputation very seriously. He is quite picky with whatever he does. I bought a rebuilt driveshaft from him, and it is the best component on my entire T


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Scheffler on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 10:34 pm:

Alen, I'm in Danbury CT. and I also used Tim Foye.
http://www.gen3antiqueauto.com/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 06:24 am:

Here's my engine sitting in Tim's test stand before he sent it to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1_pIClA2Q&feature=player_embedded
Pay attention to the vise grips on the fuel can and the lack of vibration.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 07:34 am:

I can recommend Tim Foye in Mass., www.gen3antiqueauto.com


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